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Arranging media files

When I import images taken by Canon PowerShot SX40 HS and arrange (by Nero) the imported images by date the images are arranged by Windows (8.1 ) file attribute "File created". Usually all the images are copied from camera at once so that they all have same value for "File created". But images taken by Sanyo camera are arranged correctly.
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  • Which version of Nero do you have?

    Which Nero app are you working in?

    Are the Canon files named using digits?
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  • I’m frustrated.
    I have Nero 2014 Platinium. PC runs under Windows 8.1. I am using Nero Video

    Images taken by Canon are numbered like IMG_1045.JPG etc.

    Images taken by Sanyo 1000 HD are numbered like SANY0082.JPG, so both cameras use four digits for numbering.

    Images from both cameras are imported into PC in the same directory from SD cards by Windows copy paste operation.

    Windows 8.1 can arrange the images by attribute (property) Image taken (given by camera) and the attribute Image taken is not lost during this copy paste operation

    In Nero Video you cannot see the attributes of images. But if I arrange the imported images by date they are arranged so that Sanyo images come first and then Canon images. If they were arranged by Image taken the order should be different. Furthermore if I group the images by Date, the order is: First Sanyo images with correct grouping with Date given by camera and then the Images taken Canon in one group that refers the attribute "file created" (date copied to PC).

    This is strange, how can the images named IMG_XXXX.jpg be arranged erroneously and images named SANYXXXX.JPG correctly.

    This is very annoying because very often I want add the images into the video in the order "Image taken". For this purpose I synchronize the clocks in my cameras.
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  • Did some research. It seems that Nero Video sorts the images in My Media tab according to Windows file property File modified. But to my mind it should sort images by property Image taken.

    I also found out why images taken by Canon and Sanyo were sorted differently. I had used USB cable provided by Canon and copied the images with it. Images copied with USB cable inherited property File modified from PC clock. But if the images were copied using the card reader the property File modified was given the value Image taken.

    Altogether I think that the sorting should be made by property Image taken. I have no idea how many cameras behave like Canon PowerShot SX40 HS. In future I will use internal card reader but this is annoying since Canon makes a new image folder for every month (or even for day).
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  • We discussed this at length in another recent thread. It appears that it's sorting by the names. If there are numbers like Sanyo 0-9 and then say 10, 11, 20, 21 etc., then the sort will be 0, 1, 10, 11, 2, 20, 21, 3, etc. I think you get the gist. That's the standard sorting algorithm in Windows.

    I'm not sure what you mean by sorting by attribute. Which attribute would you like it to use?
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  • Well my Windows is in Finnish so my terminology (my translation from Finnish) may be vague. First I used term attribute. It comes from terminology of Object oriented languages. I changed to use property used by Windows. If you right click a file in Windows Explorer you get a context sensitive menu at bottom of which there is "Properties". In Properties window and General tab there are Properties: Created, Modified and Last accessed?. In the last tab "Information" there are several other properties related to media. One of them is listed under Origin? and it gives the Date and Time when the image is taken. This property is given by the camera and this is the property I would like use for sorting the images. So there could be sequences like SANY0022, IMG_0034, SANY0023, etc. I Found out that if you want Nero Video to sort the images by Date, Nero Vision uses the property Modified (in General tab).

    I hope this clarifies my intention
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  • In Nero Video, it doesn't matter about the sort order. When you import your files, you can drag them to the timeline or storyboard in any order you wish. Nero Video gives you 5 sorting options other than ascending/descending. I don't know where the "modified" is.
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  • Yes Nero Video gives you possibility to drag the images into timeline in any order. But if the hundred images are not properly sorted in My Media files frame you have to drag them one by one and use Windows Explorer to sort them. This seems to be the only way to drag the images into timeline in order they were captured by camera.

    Really you do not know where the "modified" is? I explained how to use Windows Explorer the see file properties window. In every operating system each file has properties like "Date and time when the file was created", "Date and time when the file was last edited or modified" etc. Furthermore any image file captured by digital contains EXIF information. EXIF is short for Exchangeable Image File, a format that is a standard for storing interchange information in digital photography image files using JPEG compression. Almost all new digital cameras use the EXIF annotation, storing information on the image such as shutter speed, exposure compensation, F number, what metering system was used, if a flash was used, ISO number, date and time the image was taken, etc....

    I would like Nero Video to sort images by this EXIF data: date and time the image was taken. This data can also be seen by Windows explorer and in Properties window and in tab "information?"

    For the time being Nero Video uses Windows (NTFS) file property: "Date and time when the file was last edited or modified" to sort the images.

    Usually, but not always, the "Date and time when the file was last edited or modified" property is given the EXIF data: "date and time the image was taken" when the images are copied into PC. Furthermore if you edit the images outside Nero the "Date and time when the file was last edited or modified" property of course is changed.
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  • I understand now about "modified". I was thinking you are in Nero Video.

    Whether you're in the timeline or storyboard, there are two double arrows pointing upwards, just above the timer which shows your position in the project on the left hand side of the screen. When you have your pictures inserted, you can click on those arrows and rearrange your project.
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