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Need Help Converting video to get best results, lower file size

I have nero 2018 Platinum. I'm converting lots of *.mov files into digital but the settings I've used give a huge (32gb) file for just 2 hrs of video. I plan to watch these on computer and HD TV. Whats the best way to do this to get a good video result but lower GB?
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  • Hi Julie-

    Which application are you using for the conversion?

    How large are the originals?

    If you select mpeg-4 for the output, it should compress your files.
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  • Julie,

    To quickly provide helpful information about your source video, follow the instructions in topic Use MediaInfo in Your Browser and paste the result below.
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  • This is the largest, I made it using the Old windows Live Movie Maker I was adding to it using some apple *mov files - only 3 which are 80 MB each but it kept giving me the huge result.

    I have 2018 Platinum so I'm not sure which of those Nero programs would be best to use.

    Thanks so much
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    One thing I don't understand is that you said you're converting the files to "digital." .mov is digital.

    I don't know what you used in Nero to get the file sizes you're alluding to. Perhaps you'll explain.

    I was thinking you were using Nero Video. However, open Recode. Select import video files. Select one of your .mov files and select Open. In "For Which Device," select mpeg-4. On the right hand side of the screen, under Target, it will tell you the size of the file it's going to output. What kind of result are you getting there?
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  • Wither 1 -

    That's a much better result. The big 3.2 GB file came out at 4.35 GB. I loaded up a lot of files but it didn't join them together. Sorry Newbie thing.

    What I'm trying to do is make a home movie, join lots of small *mov files, with transitions and effects but not have a huge file at the end of it. Should I use Nero Video for this and then use recode after to decrease the file size.

    I used to love windows Live movie maker. got exactly what I wanted without all this fuss.
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  • If the duration of your project is around 1.5 hours, you should be able to burn it directly to a DVD as a DVD-Video using the default Nero Video settings. The maximum you can get is about 5 hours by setting Fit to Disc to Super Long Play in the Recording Format Options (click on Options). However, you might lose some quality in the video.

    If you want transitions and effects, you should open Nero Video and select Make Advanced Movie. Import your files and drag them to the timeline. Edit as you see fit. Click on Next and select Create a Disc, DVD, DVD-Video (I'm assuming you're playing your project on a standalone DVD player). You will then be in the Content screen where you can add chapters, if you wish.

    Click on Next. You will be in the Menu editing screen. You can either accept the default, customize it or choose not to use a menu. Click on Next and you can preview your project.

    Click on Next and you can then burn your project.

    I can help further, if you need it.
    • Many thanks. I only want to save digitally not burn dvd. I'm getting there but slowly. A lot of the results say codec error / does not support this video when trying to playback through smart tv. I had 1 successful result but of course by then I had tried so many variations I forgot which ones I'd used. I'm getting some successful video with no sound currently.
    • Julie,

      Your TV User Guide should list acceptable formats. I suggest that you try exporting the Nero Flower Meadow sample video in several formats as shown in this YouTube video:



      Note that the AVC and MPEG-4 formats both export to files with a .MP4 extension.
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  • Above, I told you how to use Recode to a smaller file (relatively speaking) by recoding to mp4. I also told you how to burn a DVD-Video because you said you wanted to join the videos.

    Did you just do a recode of you.mov files to mp4 and then play them on your TV? If not, please explain the process you're using before playing them. I'm trying to understand why you would have various formats.

    How are you getting the videos on your TV?
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  • I'll try to explain as best I can. I followed the youtube video above with the flower meadow and I got success. Both audio and video worked perfectly.. Here is the result from the media info window.

    General
    Complete name : flower meadow.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID : mp42 (ndhd/avc1/mp42/isom)
    File size : 13.2 MiB
    Duration : 17 s 835 ms
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 6 189 kb/s
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:15:52
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:16:04

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Baseline@L4
    Format settings : 1 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 17 s 760 ms
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 6 084 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 20.0 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 088 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.116
    Stream size : 12.9 MiB (98%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:15:54
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:16:04

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 17 s 835 ms
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 127 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 136 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 277 KiB (2%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:15:52
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:16:04

    Menu
    00:00:00.000 : Start

    so then I followed the same process with my longer home movie and again - video not supported yet it is clearly mp4. There are other mp4 videos on the storage drive which play perfectly.

    Here is the report from the faulty file.

    General
    Complete name : singapore ok maybe.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID : mp42 (ndhd/avc1/mp42/isom)
    File size : 9.31 GiB
    Duration : 1 h 30 min
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 14.8 Mb/s
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:31:15
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 14:14:34

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Baseline@L4.2
    Format settings : 1 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 1 h 30 min
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 14.7 Mb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 088 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.117
    Stream size : 9.23 GiB (99%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:31:17
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 14:14:34

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 1 h 30 min
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 124 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 173 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 79.9 MiB (1%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2018-04-02 12:31:15
    Tagged date : UTC 2018-04-02 14:14:34

    Menu
    00:00:00.000 : Start

    I'm really grateful for your help.
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  • Julie,

    The differences:



    It may be the frame rate:



    I suppose the easiest test would be to do the Flower Meadow with the higher frame rate. If that also produces a problem, lowering the frame rate when exporting your video should work?
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  • I’m happy
    SUCCESS !!!!

    Thanks Omega Tester and Wither. It was just the frame rate. I hadn't looked in this menu but was just concentrating on the 'export file section' At the lower frame rate it is accepted by the TV. Just upping the frame rate gives me the same 'video not supported' message on TV. Weird but thats what happening. I just thought mp4 was mp4 but hey ho..

    So here's a newbie with a little more knowledge than before and very happy. If either of you ever need help with a brother scan and cut machine and canvas software please just let me know. I'm a wizz at those !!!!
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