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Recode does not create target sized video

Nero Recode does not make video fit the target size. I set the target to 1 GB and it comes out over 2 GB. How can I make Nero Recode recode the video to the necessary size?
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  • Rick,

    It would help to have some specifics about your source file, such as the size, duration, format, resolution, frame rate, etc. See topic Posting "MediaInfo" data. if you need a program that will display a video file's parameters.

    Next, it would help to know what output format you are specifying.

    Recode version?

    Recode settings used?
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  • I’m sad and frustrated.
    I am trying to get my DVD converted to an MPG file so my kids can play the movie on my SUV video system. The system can only show videos that are 2 GB or smaller. I set the maximum size to 1 GB just to make sure that the final size is less than 2 GB. Even with the maximum size set to 1 GB, the final size for the video is 2.15 GB. My SUV video system cannot play it.

    I am using Nero Recode 2014 Platinum with these output settings:

    Device: MPEG-2
    Quality: Maximum size: 1 GB

    Here is the MediaInfo output of the original file:

    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Rick\Desktop\BATTLE_LA.mpg
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 5.09 GiB
    Duration : 1h 56mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 6 265 Kbps
    Writing library : Created by NeMpeg2Enc (2014-08-25T20-39-14)

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
    Duration : 1h 56mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 4 604 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 7 768 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan order : Bottom Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.445
    Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    Stream size : 3.74 GiB (73%)
    Writing library : Created by NeMpeg2Enc (2014-08-25T20-39-14)

    Audio
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-160 (0xA0)
    Format : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Format settings, Sign : Signed
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 1h 56mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Delay relative to video : 367ms
    Stream size : 1.25 GiB (25%)
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  • Rick,

    I'm no expert on this, so I usually try things that others are having problems with. I suspect that you are banging into limitations of the MPEG-2 compression scheme. I am going to play with this a little.

    In the meantime, is the player capable of playing other formats with more compression capability such as MPEG-4?
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  • It is supposed to be able to play a variety of old style files (see attached image). However, the only format that I have been able to play is MPEG-2 using LPCM audio. The file has to be less that 2 GB in size. I tried a 2.1 GB with the exact same format and it did not play.

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  • I did try AVI. However, for AVI, Nero Recode uses MPEG-4/ASP, which is not supported by the SUV's video system.
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  • I tried AVI again. Still did not work. Now, here is something weird. I hit the Edit button on the MPEG-2 and I changed the Resolution (pixel) to 480 x 320. Smaller video means smaller size, right? Nope. The output file size was 2.75 GB!

    I may have to call Nero's tech support tomorrow. Any ideas anyone?
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  • Rick,

    Sorry, I don't know enough about the formats. There's a "Mister_M" that may be able to help if he comes around.

    You could write to techsupport@nero.com.

    Here's the MediaInfo for my DVD recoded to the MPEG-4 format:

    General
    Complete name : D:\Nero Output\Recode\MountLeboChristmas2010_1.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID : mp42
    File size : 1 016 MiB
    Duration : 59mn 54s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 2 370 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:00:30
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:05:00

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 59mn 54s
    Duration_LastFrame : 33ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 2 245 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 4 771 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.217
    Stream size : 959 MiB (94%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:00:30
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:05:00

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 59mn 54s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 138 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 54.8 MiB (5%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:00:30
    Tagged date : UTC 2014-08-27 01:05:00

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    I think FLV will be small also, but it might not be compatible.
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  • I tried FLV. According to the list, the FLV format should be compatible. However, the SUV's video system does not even show the FLV files. It is as if the FLV files do not even exist.

    If you look at your MPEG-4 information, you will notice:

    Video
    Format : AVC
    Audio
    Format : AAC

    These formats are not compatible with my SUV's video system.
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  • Rick,

    This is why I was hoping Mister_M would notice your post. I left a note for him in another topic where he did post.

    I am not familiar with all of the format designations, but I know that they are referred to in various ways. I think that the MediaInfo designations for the MPEG-4 audio:

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC


    may actually mean the same thing as AAC-LC in your specs. Similarly, the video just might work. Have you tried it?

    I'm using a DVD Structure created from the Flower Meadow sample in Nero Video to look at some conversions done by another vendor's trial, but I've just started.
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  • I downloaded your sample video. It did not work. I got an error of "Unsupported Format" when I tried to play it in my SUV's video system.

    Thanks for your efforts. It is now time for me to call Nero's Technical Support phone number.
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  • $1.29 per minute for technical support on a new purchase? Ouch.

    I will send them an email and see if they try to charge me for that type of tech support.
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  • I can play the video on my computer. However, it will not play on my SUV's video system. I get an error of "Unsupported Format".
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  • I am on a business trip at the moment. I'll be arriving home tonight. Then I will have a look at this.
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  • So, here I am. Unfortunately most manufacturers of a/v equipment only mention mp4v in their manuals. But under mp4v the following codecs are mainly summarized:

    - MPEG-4/SP (H.263)
    - MPEG-4/ASP (H.263)
    - MPEG-4/AVC (H.264)

    These codecs also can be used in a so called AVI container. But if manufacturers speak of MP4V they often mean only MPEG-4 SP or MPEG-4 ASP.

    When I look at your posts, I believe you choosed the MPEG-4 ASP codec in Nero Recode.

    Most a/v systems (especially older ones) only support MPEG-4 SP.

    So, if you choose mp4 (my preferred container format) or avi, you'll have to deactivate the Advanced Simple Profile options in the encoder settings to ensure a higher playback compatibility.

    Take a look at the screenshot where to deactivate them.


    Btw. I also tested MPEG-2 files (about 4 GB), encoded them to MP4 and AVI with the above mentioned options and limited the output size to 1 GB. I always got an output size of about 0.99 GB.

    You should also edit the audio bitrate. 128 kbps is more than sufficient and saves precious space, that could be used for the video quality.
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