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Slide-Show Problem

I'm currently using Nero Platinum 2017 on a Windows 10 PC.
I'm trying to create a slide show of images in the same way as I used to with my old Nero 7. Upon reaching 1970 images Nero tells me that there is no more room/space for anymore images. There has to be something I'm not doing right. With the old Nero 7 program I was able to drag-n-drop no more than 99 images at a time thus creating a Volume of images with 99 images in it. I then had to click the 'create slide show' option/button in order to continue with another 99 images. So long as I didn't exceed 99 Volume's of 99 images in each volume I could load all of that before reaching the limit. But now I can't even get passed 1970 images.
Where am I going wrong ?
Please help.
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  • Hi Garry-

    For some reason, every version of Nero has a different "total" number of slides that you can include in a project, despite the fact that Nero says you can add as many as you want. We had a discussion about it in another thread about 6 months ago and I don't remember what the limit is for v2017. However, you should be able to add more than 99 slides at one time in v2017. I just added 1000 at one time in v2015. It takes a while for all the slides to appear in the Storyboard.

    To get around the 1970 limit, after you've done your edits, click on Next, and then select Create a Disc and the type of disc you want. Your project will then be a video. Right click on the white space in the media area of the Content screen and select Make a Slide Show. You can then create another slide show. When you click on Next, it will automatically include the new slide show with the first one.

    When done, you can either leave each one as a title or you can select all the videos and Join them to make one title.

    Depending on the duration of your slideshows, you might have to adjust the Quality settings to fit it on one disc.
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  • Your second paragraph describes a similar procedure I had to go through with Nero 7 in order to add more images. I will start afresh and attempt your method.
    Will get back to you. Umm, don't know when though.
    Thanks for now.
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  • OK, I think I've got the hang of how to add more images to get around the 1970 limit - assuming I've passed that number already.
    However, as you'll see from the screenshots a new window opened as I presume that should have happened anyway. Am I right ?
    But now the Volume's or Chapters have named themselves 'Movie 2' which I don't want.
    How do I change the name to (for example) Vol 1, Vol 2, Vol 3 etc etc ?
    In the old Nero 7 I simply clicked 'Edit' and then 'Rename' but I can't see that option here.
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  • OK, as you'll see from these new screenshots I figured out how to change the titles of each Volume but when I click 'Next' you'll see that the change hasn't materialized and that the volume's are still called 'Movie 2'. Why haven't they changed ?
    And how do I re-name that word 'Global' to something else ?
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  • It seems that one problem is resolved only for new ones to appear.
    Now I can't access 'Create A Disc' in order to add more images.
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  • Also, how do I change that 'Old Film' heading to 'Slide-Show' or something else of my choosing.
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  • Your questions are overwhelming because, from post to post, I don't know what you've solved and what you haven't.

    In regards to changing the Old Film, just click in the vicinity of Old Film. You should see two red lines. Double click on Old Film. A little box should appear on the right and Old Film should be highlighted in blue. Change it as desired.

    In regards to not being able to add more slides, it looks like you've gone to the menu editing screen from the Content screen. To add more slides, you'll need to click on the "Back" button in the menu editing screen and then procede as before by right clicking in the white space of the media area and selecting...................

    I don't see where Movie 2 appears in your screenshots. In your last screenshot, it's showing Girls & Models Vol 1 and Vol 2 for the buttons in the menu.
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  • As you say, maybe I've posted too much at one time. I'll persevere and get back to you.
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  • It won't let me go back to 'Create A Disc'. It goes straight from the Contents Screen to the Menu Editing Screen. See screenshots to make sure I've got this right.
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  • OMG, it just gets worse. Please stick with me on this. After deleting the saved slide-show project I started again from scratch only to discover that the previous 'Old Film' background had stayed where it is. I must have saved this as a future template or something although I don't recall doing that. How do I get back to the very beginning as if I haven't tried this before and as if I'm attempting it for the first time ??
    Even when I tried to 'Import Files' (top right) I was told that Nero cannot import pictures as titles - whatever that means.
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  • In regards to going back to Create a Disc, it doesn't go back to that because you've already identified the type of disc you want. As I mentioned before, just right click on the white space in the media area of the Content screen and select the Insert Slide Show. It will go back to the editing screen for you to add more pictures. When you click on Next, it will show a new video in the Content screen. You can't add pictures to the the Content screen. A title is basically a video clip or a "joined" combination of video clips and\or pictures.

    I don't understand your comment about the Old Film template. Nero Video retains the last template that you used.
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  • OK, I managed (with your help) to add all the pictures to my 'Girls & Models' project. I had to change the name 'Old Film' to 'Slide-Show' no less than 7 times, once for each Menu page whereas in the old Nero 7 if you changed the Title in the Main Menu all other following menu pages would also be changed. I also don't see a 'Header & Footer' text option. Moreover, I encountered yet another problem once I'd loaded all 3479 images.
    I'm being told that there is not enough space in the destination device to burn the project onto disc - or words to that effect.
    Now, this is both disappointing and puzzling since my old Nero 7 program hadn't even used up 50% of available space on the disc when the exact same project was done.
    Now, I'm being told that 5.53GB out of 4.38GB is being used up in this project.
    How can a Nero 2017 Slide-Show project use up 5.53GB of disc space when the old Nero 7 used up just 2.27GB of disc space with the exact same project ?
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  • In fact, inserting the disc where the old but exact same project is into my PC I see from the screenshot that only 607MB was used up out of 4.38GB or if I'm not reading it right maybe only 607MB is actually available. But none of that really matters since it's a DVD-RW disc anyway and so I'd be erasing before burning.
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  • Interesting point about the template name. If you change the name before going to Advanced Editing, then the change applies to all pages. If you change it in Advanced Editing, you have to change it on all pages. I think that's a feature of Advanced Editing that lets people customize each page.
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  • I'm not sure why it's showing a different size in the two different versions. However, you have almost 5 hours in your project and you will probably need to change the quality in DVD-Video, Recording Format Options, from Automatic (fit to disc) to Super Long Play. Change it and see what happens.
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  • I'm not sure what Header and Footer you're looking for.
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  • Header & Footer text - for example 'Slide-Show' at the top and 'Over 3500 Images' at the bottom.
    Well, if the sizes are different in one PC and one version of Nero to another PC and another version of Nero and there's no way of knowing why this is, then I guess I'm stuck.
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  • You'll see from the screenshot in the smaller window the words 'Your project currently requires more disc space than available on the destination device'.
    Umm, what is the 'selected destination device' ? I don't recall 'selecting' any 'destination' for the project. How do I find out where it's going when saved. I guess I'm trying to find out if the 'destination' itself is the problem with regards to available space.
    The window also says 'Disable the option - burn original slide-show pictures'. Umm, why wouldn't I want to burn the original pictures ???? As opposed to 'non-original' ??? I don't get that bit.
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  • I even have a larger slide-show project (of a completely different subject matter) on disc containing over 6500 images and again hardly any space was used up on the disc. Each image lasts 5 seconds.
    There must be a reason for this lack of space on this current project.
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  • OK, I've had a look at the size of each folder (20 in total) and the size of each folder is as follows; 369MB, 67.6MB, 37MB, 21.3MB, 27.4MB, 18.4MB, 23MB, 23.9MB, 29.3MB, 31.8MB, 40.9MB, 47MB, 4.11MB, 41.4MB, 149MB, 52.2MB, 60MB, 76.3MB, 81.8MB and 8.39MB.
    Now, if my calculations are correct then this all comes to under 1133MB or less than 1.4GB.
    So why is it telling me that 5.53GB is being used ? I just don't get it.
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  • In regards to headers and footers that you desire, select Objects and Clip Art in the Advanced Editing. Click on Standard Objects. The first one is Sample Text. Add that to your menu and then change the text as desired. Make sure that the location of the object is not outside the safe area of the menu or that it doesn't overlap other objects, such as buttons.
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  • Did you try changing the quality setting as I suggested?
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  • Here is what happened when I changed from 'Automatic-fit to disc' to 'High Quality' then back to Automatic.
    Suddenly, it all fits but still using more space than the Nero 7 version of the project and I think it's jumped from 16:9 to 4:3.
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  • The strangest thing. I changed the Recording Format Options-Aspect Ratio from Automatic to 16:9 (where it back into the red) then back to Automatic but this time it stayed in the red. Why ?
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  • As you'll see from the screenshot most settings are Automatic (and out of the red) but when I did this I noticed on-screen a change which was, I think, the aspect ratio changing from 16:9 to 4:3.
    • I'll take your word for it. I don't see a reason for the aspect ratio to change unless it's necessary to fit such a large project to disc. If it's doing that, you should see it during playback in the preview screen after the Menu editing screen.

      I'm very interested in your project because I have nearly 5000 slides that I'm digitalizing to put on disc. Still have 1400 to go and that probably won't happen to sometime next fall or winter.

      Got a dentist appoint in 40 minutes. Need to get out of here.
    • Wither 1,

      You don't have to take anyone's word for the 4:3 VS 16:9 confusion. It's a bug that you can easily confirm by simply following your own instructions.
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  • After burning I had a look at the project on my DVD player and the quality is quite poor. I had a look at the project previously done on another disc from my old PC and done on Nero 7 and the quality is much better despite both settings being set to Automatic-Fit To Disc.
    Also, when I press the 'Next' button on my DVD remote I expect to see the next image (as what happens on the older disc) but instead I see the next chapter (?) so I have to sort that one out before burning to a dual-layer disc. Any ideas as to how I change from next chapter to next image ?
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  • I now have most of the issues solved. There is now only one thing stopping the project getting under way and that is the issue of skipping/jumping to the next image on my DVD remote.
    When I click on 'Next' ('Skip' on some DVD remotes) I expect to see the next image but instead the project jumps to the next CHAPTER missing out on a ton of pictures. This worked fine on my old Nero 7 and my old PC but not (it seems) with Nero 2017.
    Why ?
    I have checked the box 'Enable Forward And Backward Jump During Playback' and I'm assuming that is what I should do. Maybe my 'Chapters' setting is wrong I don't know.
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  • What it's doing is jumping to the next title since you didn't join your slide shows. You need to add a chapter marker to each slide to get the desired result.

    After you've created the first slide show and gone to the Content screen, click on the down arrow under the Clapboard under the preview screen. Select, Auto-detect chapters. After you run it, there should be a chapter marker for each slide. Repeat that for each slide show that you create.
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  • Are you saying that I need to start all over again ?
    You say 'add a chapter marker to each slide to get the desired result' - are you saying that I need to do that over 3500 times, for each image ?
    Please excuse my ignorance as this product is new to me.
    Thank you for your patience thus far.
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  • OK, I see where you are talking about.
    But what do I do with this new window ?
    Please if you can answer the previous queries first.
    Thanks.
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  • Click on Start in the Chapter Detection. It will automatically insert a chapter marker for each slide.
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  • Right OK, but what about my queries from the previous two posts not to mention 'Sensitivity, 'Minimum Chapter Length' and 'Keep Previous Chapter Marks' in the window from my previous screenshot ? ?
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  • OK, I've done as you ask without waiting for answers to my previous posts in the hope that I would get it right while waiting.
    It didn't work.
    When clicking next it doesn't jump from photo to the very next photo it jumps to the next letter in the alphabet. For example, if I have 4 photos of Alyssia Milano named Alyssia Milano 1, Alyssia Milano 2, Alyssia Milano 3 and Alyssia Milano 4 what I should be seeing is those 4 photos one after the other but instead it jumps to B starting with Blake Lively 1. Now, there are 6 pics of Blake Lively but instead of going through those one by one it jumps to C and so on jumping to D, E etc. Screenshot 1 shows what happened after I selected Auto-Detect Chapters (without waiting on my previous queries being answered) and screenshot 2 shows where I looked at the project using the menu window at the bottom right. Why is this so complicated ? All I want to do is create a slide-show looking at each photo one by one and choosing on my DVD remote which ones to skip (i.e. when I choose not to wait for the 5 seconds per photo to pass.)
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  • I see what the problem is and I overlooked it. The setting for the chapter detection minimum length in your screen shot is set to 114.3 seconds. You need to set that to the shortest duration of any photo.

    In regards to your other questions, I didn't expect that you would either have to start all over or to add a marker manually for each slide. I assumed that you had saved your project so that you could reopen it (might have been a bad assumption on my part) and telling you how to set the chapter markers was an answer to your other question.

    In addition, since you started with a new project, there shouldn't have been any previous chapter markers. However, when you run the chapter detection again, I would have it remove the previously added chapter markers so there should be no reason for you to do additional work if some of the already added ones aren't appropriate.
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  • I didn't start a new project, I just asked the question 'should I' ?
    I think I tried your suggestion of 'shortest duration of any photo' and if I recall that led to the project (on my DVD remote) skipping to the next letter of the alphabet as opposed to the next photo.
    But just in case my memory is playing tricks I'll try again and do as you suggest.
    BTW, is there a way to avoid having Chapters altogether but still retain a Menu ?
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  • Please have a look at the screenshots.
    You'll see that it seems that I have to select Minimum Chapter Length for each and every Volume as opposed to applying the minimum chapter length in one go for the entire project.
    Come back Nero 7 all is forgiven.:)
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  • If you want to apply it to all your slide shows at once, you'll need to select them all using standard Windows key combinations and click on Join. The downside of that is that you will now have only one title in the Main Menu. Perhaps you can create your project such that each set of common slides are in one title so you can specify a button for each title in the menu.

    The automatic chapter detection should not use the alphabet.

    You don't need to have chapters but then, you won't be able to step forward and backward to a slide using your remote.
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  • Garry,

    In your topic description, you said, " With the old Nero 7 program I was able to drag-n-drop no more than 99 images at a time thus creating a Volume of images with 99 images in it.". Those are limits for DVDs.
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  • Here's what the Nero support team said - assuming the link works.
    Can you please tell me what you think.
    http://nero-contact.quicksupportlink....
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  • Here's what happened after I did as you suggested - i.e. set the chapter detection length to the shortest duration. The project is now hopelessly in the red.
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  • General
    Complete name : VTS_08_1.VOB
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 15.5 MiB
    Duration : 8 min 10 s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 266 kb/s
    Writing library : Created by Nero

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings : CustomMatrix
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : N=1
    Duration : 8 min 10 s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 261 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 9 610 kb/s
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
    Standard : PAL
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan order : Bottom Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.025
    Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:02
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Closed
    Stream size : 15.2 MiB (98%)
    Writing library : Created by Nero

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  • Hope I've done this right. If not please let me know.
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    • Garry,

      I meant detecting chapters automatically. If you want the NEXT button to move from image to image, you need a chapter marker for each one. It is not permitted to have more than 99 chapters per title. It is not permitted to have more than 99 titles per DVD. I have no idea why Wither 1 instructed you to add more than 99 chapters. As he said, he's learning from your experience.

      So, to do what you want to do, you'll have to limit the number of pictures in each title to 99 or less.
    • That's fine. But with Nero 7 I could drag-n-drop or 'load in' 100's of images at a time and the overflow would be dealt with simply by selecting 'Yes' to the question 'Do you want Nero to add the excess images to new titles' or words to that effect. Also, when I try to add a chapter to each image the project jumps into the red. As seen in previous screenshots. Maybe it's the 'overflow' thing that isn't being dealt with the way it should, i.e. moved into following Titles, if you follow.
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  • Why is the size of the Vob file 7.36GB and yet when I look at the properties of the same file in my folder it reads a mere 304KB ???
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  • Can we perhaps start afresh and someone with actual knowledge and with time and patience provide a step-by-step guide on how to do this. I've been given conflicting answers and advise and now I don't know what's the right thing to do anymore.
    Please stick with me.
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    • So as I asked in my previous post, what happens to the overflow ?
    • Garry,

      I know nothing about Nero 7. Here is an example of what happens if an attempt is made to import "too many pictures":



      Since you have many more than 2000 pictures to include, it would seem advisable to sort them into folders with 99 or less pictures per folder. In other words, one folder per DVD title. Otherwise, you will have to sort through them within the Nero editor as shown in the video below. In the following video, I imported 929 pictures and then dragged two (not 99!) of them to the timeline before proceeding to the Content screen and starting a new slideshow. You will note that each time you create a new slideshow, the pictures must be imported again.

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  • Can this thread be kept open please ? I will get around to attempting this slide-show again from scratch. It's just the thought of it though. As soon as I have summoned up the will so to speak.
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  • I think I've already alluded to or have already asked this question before and so without reading through absolutely every post in this thread can someone please tell me if I can drag-n-drop (for example) 1000 images in one go and let NERO sort out the images into batches of 99 each ???? (Rather than me having to manually sort out and create new folders of 99 images on my PC before loading in the pics.)
    This is what I did with Nero 7. I loaded in 100's at a time and Nero simply asked me if I wanted to add the overflow into new titles of 99 each to which I of course chose the 'Yes' option.
    CAN Nero 2017 do this ? And if not, why not ?
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  • Not that I'm aware of.

    There were some nice features in the very old versions that didn't get carried on.

    However, I'd like to know where you were in v7 when you did that. I just tried it in v9 Nero Vision after selecting Make Slide Show and there was no message similar to yours.
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  • Not sure what you mean by 'where you were' and I'm tempted to say 'I was at home' but I'm assuming that's not what you mean.
    It was right at the start when you first drag-n-drop to create the first Title/Volume. I dragged-n-dropped 100's of pics in one go and a new window appeared which told me that I can only load 99 pics into one Title and would I like the rest to be put into titles of 99 pics each.
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  • "Where you were" meant where were you in Nero Vision. Did you select Make Slide Show when you opened it and then select DVD-Video? If not, what did you select? I'm asking because I want to try it in v8. I don't have v7.
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