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Verbatim BD R LTH 6x Disk Support

Just Installed a LG BD R Burner and tried Verbatim BD R LTH disks for data record and burn failed with message "Illegal disk media". Does Nero Platinum 2014 support BD R LTH disks(25GB capacity)? My system is Windows 7 Pro, 2TB Drive,
Quad Intel CPU and 16GB ram. Standard DVD-R burn OK.
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  • I burn Verbatim Blu-ray 25 GB capacity disks often. I have an LG internal burner. Not sure what the LTH is so I don't know if I am using the same disks as your or not. The disks I use are 6x and that is what I normally burn at.
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    This problem has nothing to do with Nero.

    LTH just means low-to-high. Older discs use HTL which is, surprise, high-to-low. The way to fix this problem is to update the firmware for the drive. New drives might not have the latest firmware. Just depends on how long they've been sitting on the shelves.
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  • I haven't tried to do this but it does pose the question are you burning the same type of media (Illegal disk media) when you do a standard DVD-R burn?
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  • The type of media doesn't matter for this error message. The word "illegal doesn't mean the media is copy protected" in this case, if that's what you're getting at.
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  • Hi Still Learning, my normal Ridata DVD-R disks work fine in this LG Burner. I am attempting to use the Verbatim BD-R LTH disks to copy an .iso file that is larger than 4.7GB but any size files do not work on this particular media. I've tried three different applications, Nero, JR-River and Windows 7 Pro. They all result in a "Illegal disk" message and the disk is ejected. Maybe I just got a bad batch, can you suggest any other media with capacity greater than 5GB? BTW, My LG Burner is model WH16NS40 with a Mfr Date of Jun-2014. I don't think this is a LG firmware issue.
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    I've only burns a couple of iso images. If I remember correctly, I was asked if I wanted to create DVD format or data. In my case, it was DVD. You could try a Double Layer DVD. They can contain over 8GB. Can't remember the exact size they allow. I have been them successfully in my internal burner. However, whenever I try to burn them in my external burner, they will always fail at the end.

    Maybe your disc fails because it has a DVD structure. Not sure what the Blu-ray structure is, but I'm think they are not the same.
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  • I just wanted to add that I have only burned an ISO image to a regular DVD. It was an ISO image that would fit on a 4.7GB disk. But if your ISO image is a DVD movie structure then it should end up being a DVD when burned.
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    Bithawk- I have the same drive and I bought it about 4 months ago. It's in my other system. I'll check the firmware version tomorrow.

    Note that this is not a new problem. I've been in the forum almost daily for the last 6 years and it started popping up about 3 years ago. The firmware update has always resolved the issue. If it doesn't, then it needs to be address with LG.
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    G'Day Bithawk,
    It's been a long time since I burnt a disk, so I'm not familiar with what's on the market these days. All of my backups and copies I put straight on to USB sticks. I find they are particularly good for recording TV series. It may be that you will have to convert the file system but could be worth giving it ago.
    Thank you WITHER 1 for your input. No I wasn't referring to 'copyright protection'
    As you know there are many ways of copying on the net.
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  • After I posted I realized that you aren't the person who started this thread. Another mea culpa. :(
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  • Hi Wither 1, I took your advice and updated the LG firmware(from 1.00-AO to 1.02-AO) which went OK. However, I still get the same results when attempting to burn a .iso image to the Verbatim disk. I also tried just burning the file as a BD-R data record and Nero completed it successfully but Windows did not recognize the file on the disk( actually asked if I wanted to format the disk) so I guess it's now a coaster. Since the Verbatim disks are meant to be data storage disks I guess they are unable to except the .iso format. I'll look for another hi-capacity disk for my .iso burn. Thanks to Still Learning also, the USB sticks are a good idea except that I need to boot off a disk to get this software to run, it's a Microsoft application not a movie or video type disk. Any further suggestions are welcomed at this point and thanks again for the help.
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  • The same disk can be a data disk or a video. It depends on what options you choose when you burn it and what you put on it. In Nero on the DVD tab, if you choose the first option, you get a data disc. You can put video files, audio files and pictures and other things on the disk and burn them as data. If you put the data disk in a blu ray player, and it understands the file types, then it will play them. When you first put the disk in the player, it will tell you that it is a data disk. But if you navigate to a video and select it, it just might play it. Blu ray players can play WMV, MP4 and some quicktime (MOV). This is how I burn most of my blu rays.

    If you select the option to create a DVD Video and you put files that are in the DVD structure, then you should get a DVD that will play in DVD or Blu ray player. I normally use a DVD-R for this. The DVD format consists of two main folders. TS_AUDIO and TS_VIDEO. When you this type of disc to burn, Nero will create the folders for you. But the files you add must be in the DVD file structure. The TS_AUDIO folder is always empty. Inside the TS_VIDEO folder, you will find .BUF, .INF and .VOB files.

    An iso file is something different. I've only burned a couple. One was a data disc and the other was a DVD. I'm pretty sure it asked me when I burned the DVD ISO file whether I wanted to burn a DVD or a data disk. I picked the DVD and it created a DVD that played in my set top player. I will try to burn the ISO file and see what happens and let you know. My ISO file file on a 4.7 GB disk, so I didn't have the issue you have.

    Is your ISO file data or a DVD?
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  • I don't know the video file structure of a Blu ray, but I looked online and I think it is different than the DVD, so if you say you want to burn a BR video and then drop DVD files into it, I'm thinking it probably won't work. The data disk you burned may play if the files were extracted from the iso file into the DVD structure. But it won't just play if you pop it into a Blu ray. You will have to navigate into the TS_Video folder and select one of the files. (I haven't tried burning a DVD folder to a blu ray, so I don't know if it works or not.But if the files are there, then I think they could play.) If you burned the file as an ISO file then most players won't know what to do with it. The files need to be extracted before they work. (I'm no ISO expert, so maybe someone will correct me if I am wrong.
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  • I was thinking that if you could mount the ISO file on your computer so you could extract the files then you could use a program like Nero RECODE to recode it to a size that would fit on a regular DVD. That's assuming that you can tolerate the drop in resolution and that the files aren't copy protected. Nero won't process them if they are copy protected. There use to be a program called Nero Image Drive that could be used to mount an ISO image. I think there are others out there too, that are free. But you have to be careful with free software. Some times they come with unwanted tag alongs or virus.

    Maybe someone else knows how to do this and will chime in.

    I just tried to burn my ISO image. I used Nero Express and then picked Import (Whatever the last option was). It loaded my image and identified it as a DVD. I didn't need to do anything else. Just select how many copies and I want and then burn it. It burned to the disc as a DVD Video which works in my desktop.
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  • Blu-ray burns a BDMV, if it's a video project. Dvd-Video burns a video_ts folder, if it's a video project. AVCHD-DVD burns a AVCHD folder which also contains a BDMV folder if it's a video project. The files contained within those folders vary with the type of project.

    Elsewise, you simply have a data disc.

    If you want to burn the ISO, simply double click on it and Burning Rom will open. I can't remember if that dialogue box allows changing the type of disc.
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    I tried this...

    When I double clicked on the ISO file, it opened Nero Express and identified my ISO as a DVD and was ready to burn the DVD. I had the option to pick how many copies I wanted to burn. The burn resulted in a DVD that was payable on my set top.

    If I right click, I could open the Nero Burning ROM. It showed a DVD Image on the left. It was also ready to burn. There was no way to change the type of disc. I didn't burn it, so I'm not positive it the DVD Image means that it would burn a standard DVD.

    In any case, your simplest solution is probably to get a Double Layer DVD and then load your image into Nero Express and burn it. Should end up being a DVD or a data disk depending on what it is.
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  • My method of opening an ISO was flawed. When double clicking on it, you should have a "burn with" option. In your case, the ISO must have been associated with Nero Express. I guess, either way, it doesn't give you the option to change the disc type.

    Now that your drive has the latest firmware and you're getting the "illegal disc" error, you should send an e-mail to tech support@nero.com. I'm assuming you're trying the burn from Burning Rom, Blu-ray (ISO) and that is what's failing.
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  • Hi Wither 1, thanks for checking. Just to be clear, ISO files can be either DVD or DATA. What ever is in the image is contained in the ISO file that needs to be stored to a DVD disk. I am trying to store a Microsoft program(Visual Studio) to a disk from a .iso file that is 5.8GB. I think my best solution is to use a double layer blank DVD disk. I am in the process of doing that now and will update you. As to the data errors, I still need to research as to how to use the BD-R 6x LTH for data storage...it would seem that they should work for .iso files as well but up to now, it hasn't worked for me. Normally, when I burn a ISO image, I use Nero Express, select image burn and select the .iso file and the burn works flawlessly. Using this burn method always fails when using the Verbatim BD-R 6x LTH disks. I'll keep you posted if I discover anything new.
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  • Just to cover all the bases, have you tried the Blu-Ray (ISO) in Burning Rom?

    I still think it would be worth an e-mail to tech support. I'm not an expert on this stuff.
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  • I'm sorry Bithawk but nothing else comes to mind. If I happen to come accross any that may help you I will put it in this column for you.
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